March 3-7, 2011 Design Survey

At the March 2nd General Meeting of the Friends of Julian Abele Park, four conceptual design plans were presented for the next phase of development of the Park. Following the meeting we conducted an online survey to solicit and consolidate community input. In the survey we presented the four proposed plans. We also stated in the survey's introduction that we understood the plan done by the Friends' Design Subcommittee was obviously more fleshed out than the other three, so we asked respondents to vote more on the basic 'bones' of the park rather than on any specific landscaping issues. To further focus their answers, we asked folks to keep in mind that:
  • All potential designs would maintain clear sight lines into the park, to maximize safety for all users.
  • Each plan included a 'stage' area to be used for concerts and other events, but that these areas are not raised platforms - rather paved areas that will be usable on an everyday basis as well.
  • The rectangular shape drawn over the stage area in the Design Subcommittee's plan depicts an open-work pergola, or essentially an open roof on four posts, which would not diminish visibility and offer a shady spot to sit under.
  • The designs offer varying amounts of lawn space, paths through and around the park, seating areas, etc.
We also indicated in our survey's introduction that our current $150,000 grant will not pay for everything we want to have now (that will require further fundraising in the future), but that what we want to do now is carefully spend this grant money in ways that will provide the underpinnings of long-term park design. So what was voted on was not so much about any one specific/final plan, but on the park's future shape and form. Community participation is also an important factor when we apply for grants, so in addition to having a voice in the process, these survey responses will also be useful for future fundraising.

Survey Results:

NOTE: All open-ended questions were optional — including self-identication information.

RATINGS

Using the scale below, please rate the Park Friend's Design Subcommittee's concept plan.
CountPercent
1|Poor 7 3.4% 3.4%
2 4 1.9% 1.9%
3 10 4.8% 4.8%
4 7 3.4% 3.4%
5 6 2.9% 2.9%
6 11 5.3% 5.3%
7 21 10.1% 10.1%
8 41 19.8% 19.8%
9 46 22.2% 22.2%
10|Outstanding 54 26.1% 26.1%
Total 207 100% Scale

 


Using the scale below, please rate Lager Raabe Skafte's Concept #1.
CountPercent
1|Poor 12 5.8% 5.8%
2 18 8.7% 8.7%
3 19 9.1% 9.1%
4 28 13.5% 13.5%
5 33 15.9% 15.9%
6 31 14.9% 14.9%
7 24 11.5% 11.5%
8 24 11.5% 11.5%
9 13 6.3% 6.3%
10|Outstanding 6 2.9% 2.9%
Total 208 100% Scale

 


Using the scale below, please rate Lager Raabe Skafte's Concept #2.
CountPercent
1|Poor 23 10.8% 10.8%
2 22 10.4% 10.4%
3 39 18.4% 18.4%
4 28 13.2% 13.2%
5 35 16.5% 16.5%
6 26 12.3% 12.3%
7 15 7.1% 7.1%
8 15 7.1% 7.1%
9 4 1.9% 1.9%
10|Outstanding 5 2.4% 2.4%
Total 212 100% Scale

 


Using the scale below, please rate Lager Raabe Skafte's Concept #3.
CountPercent
1|Poor 11 5.2% 5.2%
2 8 3.8% 3.8%
3 14 6.7% 6.7%
4 14 6.7% 6.7%
5 35 16.7% 16.7%
6 26 12.4% 12.4%
7 38 18.1% 18.1%
8 35 16.7% 16.7%
9 18 8.6% 8.6%
10|Outstanding 11 5.2% 5.2%
Total 210 100% Scale

 

RANKINGS

Now, please tell us which of the 4 designs you like best. 		CountPercent
128 62.7% 62.7%
21 10.3% 10.3%
8 3.9% 3.9%
47 23.0% 23.0%
Total 204 100% Scale

 

Which do you like second best? CountPercent
38 18.9% 18.9%
45 22.4% 22.4%
12 6.0% 6.0%
106 52.7% 52.7%
Total 201 100% Scale

 

And finally, of the two remaining, which do you like better? CountPercent
14 7.0% 7.0%
119 59.2% 59.2%
41 20.4% 20.4%
27 13.4% 13.4%
Total 201 100% Scale

 

RANKED LAST (not asked): CountPercent
23 11.4% 11.4%
17 8.4% 8.4%
140 69.3% 69.3%
22 10.9% 10.9%
Total 202 100% Scale

 

ID#
Please explain why you liked this design best. Be as specific as possible.
2   My favorite part of this design is the pathways, which serve to draw you into the central area of the Park. I also love the idea of the features/focal points in the center, especially the pergola! In addition, there appears to be a nice variety of seating options sprinkled around, with both areas conducive to quiet contemplation or reading, as well as some places where folks can congregate. I can picture neighbors coming together on a quiet summer afternoon, and also could see the community bringing out their blankets and lawn chairs to enjoy a jazz concert or a movie on a nice summer night.
3   This design balances the needs of the community really well. We need a social space and this provides it with the wonderful seat wall and stage for events. It has a large enough lawn spanning most of the park, but balanced for maintenance acting as a great seating area for events. I can just envision the planting beds full of beautiful plants at different layers. We don't have any gardens in the neighborhood and need something more than an open field. The focal points are great too and the variety of benches inside the park and out looking onto the street are great!
4   Diagonal paths facilitate paths people actually use; smaller lawn area is easier to maintain. This design reflects how the park is now used and will be used in the future.
5   I'm pretty unimpressed with all of them. This one at least has some obstacles that may prevent games of football and keep dogs in the mulched areas. This one is decent, I would just like to see it set up better to accommodate the jazz nights.
7   the walkways are nice the variety is nice. . although i do not recommend putting anything nice near the house with the mural . they constantly throw garbage out there and would most likely destroy any gardens bordering their home .
8   It looks like a real professionally designed park as opposed to a big open space.
19   I like the paths disecting the park. I feel like this is the most calming design for a relaxing day in the park. The other designs are too wide-open. Currently, the wide-open design of the park seems to only appeal to dogs and football, both of which leave a mess of the grass. Granted, I don't know where the farmer's market would set up in this design.
23   The space is broken up (resembles Fitler Sq.). Concept is fully developed with trenched trees and benches facing not in but also out. Specimen tree and water feature are excellent ideas. Cobblestone pathways are designed to bring people in to the center of the park and not just around the periphery.
27   First and foremost, I like the pathways through the park. We need to get away from the dog park open lawn idea. Plus, I want to be able to walk with my stroller in the park. I like the stage area in the middle--it can be used as a mommy gathering space when there are no concerts there. I also really like the sidewalk trees. I like the entrance on 22nd and Carpenter.
28   This design goes "outside the box" the most and seems to be the best design for a multi-use pocket park.
33   Well it was the most detailed plan - not sure if its fair to compare it evenly with the others, but;1) I like the design with multiple entrance/exit paths (should cut down on grass/planting areas from getting worn out).;2) I like the item of having two circular feature to draw people into and center the area
34   A lot going on rather than a plain field...;Not much lawn will be easy to maintain.;a small little fenced area for dog would be the best
35   If feasible with the amount of funds available, this plan mixes design with practicality. It increases seating in the park and adds accents - the feature and specimen tree. With this design and seating wall staging, events will not have to consistently kill the grass to have an event. Plus, the ample walking space will mean that people will not need to walk on the grass within the park. Overall it is a well-designed, considered proposal.
38   I like that it has paths leading to the center of the park. I think it is important to use a nicer material for the pathways to give the park some character. I like that it does not have an interior perimeter path for the park because there are sidewalks just outside the perimeter of the park. ;;I like the two planting beds to the north and south of the park. I like that they are enclosed and there are benches along these areas. ;;I like the trees in the plan and like that the plan is including street trees outside of the park. It would be great to see some kind of rain water collection systems/enclosed barrels to help water the planting beds. ;;I do not like the area where the stage would be located in this plan. It is a small park and I think breaking it up right in the middle with a stage and a pergola will make it feel too small and overcrowded when events do take place. ;;I think the East side of the park (near the mural/houses) would be a better location for a stage. More people could be accommodated for events if it was placed in this location and isn’t this closer to the power? ;;Also, I think more open lawn space/flexible space should be provided on the West side of the park to accommodate more people for larger events instead of such a large planting bed. If the round path areas had small features (example - a fountain and/or a statute later on when money becomes available), people could still see performances from the West side of the park and the sidewalk outside of the park. ;;Overall, great work on the plan design subcommittee!! ;
39   more dynamic
44   The other designs' expanses of grass are too large. The large lawns make the park apear more like a dog park than a people park. ;;This design on the other hand, looks to have a nice symmetry of paver paths, focal points and compartmentalized seating. I'll be around the corner and would love to come to something more cozy like this to read a book or hang out with friends. ;;The other park ideas seem less of a retreat from the hustle, bustle & general street traffic of the city. Especially seeing how its off of Christian St which is busy.
48   I like the features it presents. It seems more detailed. It directs focus to the mural.
49   I did not understand the other 3!;This one is well thought out
54   I am against any of the plans with a large open field because I think they are unsustainable. The grass will constantly be destroyed by pickup games and such. After initial grant money, will we have the ongoing budget to constantly re-seed?
55   Better at attracting a diverse group;Assembly spaces are broken-up to keep crowd sizes managable;Planting beds - nice touch - not sure, are these vegetable gardens? that would be nice and engage the community.;More highly developed than the others - ;Like the traffic flow through the garden;Looks like a good place for community events, communication
57   It looks like there are more benches and more planting beds and flowers. I also like that there are paths running through the laws and beds.
62   Diversity of features.
65   This is the only of the 4 design that separates the spaces into smaller sections making the park more intimate - various pockets were people can set up a little picket. The other designs are open "no man's land" with no interesting features or spaces.
66   I like that the pathways enter into the park rather than around the perimter. I love the abundance of trees and the dedicated area for lawn.
68   Uses park space well by incorporating lots of interesting features, but still maintains plenty of green space. Of the designs, it reminds me most of Rittenhouse Sq., which is the best park in center city.
70   I like the different areas and the pergola concept
73   Seems more suitable to a variety of events that can take place here (markets, concerts, etc.);
75   I love this! Grass doesn't seem to wrk well with city parks so I think the more cobblestone pathways the better. I love all the planting beds and places for benches throughout and there is still room to have a concert if needed with the lawn. I absolutely think this is by far the best design!
76   Area is broken up, with places to sit marked well. Lot of variety included (as far as how space is used).
77   dynamic design, creating different landscapes and ambiances
79   This one has more detail and variety (not sure if the other ones had all these items). I think the park needs many more trees. I also like the idea of the lawn and lots of benches. I also think it needs to be oriented towards 22nd St.
81   It appears to be the most thought out, takes in comments from people in the area on seating ans shade, includes stormwater management.
84   This design better utilizes the space of the park. It allows for a central gathering area as well as a lawn. Access points are clearly defined and thoughtfully placed at the corners where most traffic will come from. Entry from other locations is blocked giving the visitor a sense of enclosure. This is also the only design that is clearly unique to the space the other three appear to be ‘cookie cutter’ and generic, this presents a problem when trying to define the uniqueness of a park.
86   Innovative design, love the use of various areas for different plantings, best thought out of the four designs, liked the use of various materials like lawn and paths, etc. The idea of a specimen tree appeals as dies the idea of a feature.
88   design is very neighbohood friendly and adds elements, such as the pergola and planting beds, that make the park special. This plan seems more organized and i especially like the access paths.
89   The plan provides an interesting mix of surfaces and plenty of shade. The space provides for a mixture of uses, and creates a sense of intimate space that will make it a valuable addition to the neighborhood. It is a very thoughtful and attractive plan.
93   I like the access paths from different areas, the space allotted for a feature, the whole area just seems friendlier and more inviting.
98   It has character. I love the interesting walkways through the park with 4 accesses into the park. I really like the seating wall with the pergola over it. The overall design of this plan makes me want to visit and hang out at the park regularly as well as wanting to maintain its beauty. It gives me a feeling of a royal garden. Would you consider planting a Southern Magnolia tree in this park? It's such a beautiful, majestic tree, fitting for this space.
100   More interesting design. Seems to provide more shade and greenary. Serves multiple uses, leasure walking, sitting and resting, special events, etc. Multiple access points.
105   The design provides a walkway thoroughfare, as opposed to a perimeter path, which makes it more inviting and immersive. Having a small stage with a "sitting" lawn allows for performances, but provides a seating area with shade while not in use. The idea of making the park a venue for music and theater creates an immediate recognition that the park is a destination, not just a small green space. The idea of having perimeter benches and trees interspersed, as opposed to interior benches with perimeter trees, seems to provide a more inviting space. Overall, it just looks like somewhere I would like to pass the time.
118   Best for daily use---everything else overaccentuates the paved "stage area". Diagonal paths are ideal, too, for cutting through the park. Reminds me of the park around 8th and Catherine, which I quite like.
119   Obviously it has the best presentation but i think it mimics Fitlers Sq and Rittenhouse best and we know they work well. I would increase lawn space though and of course make one area fenced in for dogs to encourage owners not to let them in the rest of the park. The "sunny bed" will be blocked until afternoon by the mural building.
120   Most interesting and specific design.
121   Access from corners, balance between green and pathways. Prominent feature that can become a defining point of the park.
122   stone paths to hopefully protect grass a bit more from people cutting through, good layout in general
123   Entry access at all corners and paths through the park, make it more likely that it will be used. Greater differentiation of spaces in the park makes it more likely that people will be able to find spaces for various activities. Central placesment of both the 'staging area' and the 'feature' are likely to draw more people into the center of the park.
125   Looks like a nice place to hang out and enjoy the outdoors.
126   Street trees in addition to Park tress (this was the only concept which had that. The two round cobblestone areas should provide better areas for sitting and gathering. All concepts should use more lighting than the 4 poles already in place. The paths from the four corners provide good entrance to the park. Cobblestone will be a good material as compared to concrete, fence material and bench materials will be important too.
130   Provides the most walkable paths without being totally obtrusive. Lots of attention to detail.
133   i like paved play areas for kids
135   seems to have something for everybody.;I like the feeling of a park like Fitler Square with walking paths, flower beds and a lawn.;;These appears better than the simple openness of some of the other designs because it will be more of a 'social' park and less of a play area.
137   I like that it breaks the park up into different sections. It feels more vibrant to me because there is a lot going on. I also like that there are several paths through the park, which makes it feel accessible. I only wish the stage were facing the other direction (i.e., stage and lawn reversed), so people who walk down 22nd street could stand on the sidewalk and look in.
138   has a mix of uses, has a bulletin board, appeal for people passing through or those who'd want to sit.
143   Exciting has various different zones.
145   Variety of uses,intimacy of spaces
146   Crossing walk ways thru park
147   It has much more detail than the others; I can visualize this plan much better. It also seems like the varied uses would be more attractive to park users.
149   1)With paved areas, will be more durable to intense use. 2)More versatile areas (stone vs. lawn). 3) Flexibility: conducive to mini-areas for feeling of intimacy and use of lawn area for crowd events. 4) visually pleasing with pergola & seating wall. 5) two types of seating (wall&bench) creates choice & variability. 6) different areas have different vistas (city skyline, mural, devlp't on Carpenter). 7) multiple points of entry create cohesion b/w Christian & Carpenter. 8) bulletin board creates community. OVERALL: This design creates both intimacy and community in an urban setting. Thank you for offering us a chance to comment.
153   I like the diagonal walkways with the two circles, the large amount of bedding areas and smaller lawn area than the other designs. This will make a more interesting, safe and pedestrian friendly design. Some of the other designs have blind-spots and their large lawn areas promise to keep the park primarily a "dog-run."
155   This design has hierarchy of places to sit and walk. It has equal entry at the four corners of the park, creating a more casual flow and a safer feel. It has a nice lawn for dogs to run, but that is separate from other functions. It best utilizes the depth of the park to create multiple spaces within the park, but also allows it to be used for big groups.
156   The pathways allow for strolling through the park, which is currently not always possible since the park gets muddy. Also, I think this design will make this a family friendly park, which it is not currently, because it is presently used as and referred to as a dog park and the grass is ridden with dog urine and feces, which is unpleasant to smell and unsanitary to sit on. Finally, I think the I think the design creates a defined self contained environment, separate from the city streets, that will be attractive to many people to come and enjoy. The open designs do not create this effect.
160   It looks like a good use of space, the seating is spread out and there are many "pockets" for gathering or sitting and enjoying the park. There are many areas clearly delineated, and there is the shade of the pergola and vertical interest in this plan, with an emphasis on a specimen tree, and a feature so there are three areas of interest to walk through.
164   This design has the larger lawn/foliage area and has a nice arrangement of seating, trees, and accent features.
170   The large lawn is a problem now. It is one giant mud pit/ dog park. We need more going on in the interior.
173   looks like the best use of the space
175   creates a meander through the park vs. the others create "cut-throughs" with the straight line walk ways.
177   The walkway goes through the center of the park and it connects you to the four corners. However, I would suggest adding more benches.
179   Best use of space. Giant lawn mudpit not currently working.
183   It is the most well thought out. I love the pergola and the specimen tree. It is a compelling site plan
186   Good mix of features. Good access.
188   I like the fact that the trees seem more dispersed throughout the space (compared to the other designs) and that they are on BOTH sides of the main peripheral sidewalks. I like the way the pathways are routed in the parklet. I can't tell exactly where the stage is located in relation to the seating and which way people are facing. It makes most sense to have the stage against the east wall (facing west) so that in the event of a large crowd, streets could be closed off to accomodate viewers.
189   unfairly the best because it has the most detail. if the other three had the same amount of detail, perhaps i would have chosen a different one.
190   A good mix of multiple uses. Feels very integrated. Feels a little likte Rittenhouse or Fitler -- very communal but also nice lawn.
196   More green space. Logical pathways to cross park, yet creates a "ramble" in a small space. I like the orientation of this overall layout in relation to streets/surroundings. Allows for multiple uses. I like the stage & pergola idea.
197   Access at the corners. Limited grass (which is really hard to maintain). Conducive to using the park as a space to cut through when walking and it provides paths to do that (making it more likely there will be more people in the park).
198   Best use of space. Feels similar to Rittenhouse - offering many different areas, many benches.
202   There is more green space. In addition, the park is designed to be used when concerts are not being held. I like the walkways. I however would like to see the stage areas on all of the designs abutting the building/mural. This would allow people to sit outside of the park and on 22nd street and watch the concerts. The current designs force the backs of the performers to be against 22nd street.
203   I love the planting areas, the green, the beauty of the design is that it's simple and pretty.
204   Because of the 4 access way in and out, the green lawn area, number of seating areas planting beds and pergola
206   It's the least reminiscent of an empty lot. Like the varied planting beds and space for park "feature". This design makes the space distinctive.
210   I love the idea of a pergola and cobblestone pathway.
212   excellent mix of green space, seating areas, central activity area.
217   I like the quadrant model. Plus the other models use the entire space for stage/seating. I think this model allows for more greenery and can be better used better for different types of events. I also don't think we need the entire space for events, and that is why I chose this concept.
218   Access to interior of the park area from all four corners; defined areas for planting beds (although there may be a place for those in the other plans as well).
224   I believe the cobblestone pathways and architectural layout is more consistent with the other historical parks in the center city areas. All of which makes the park more visually interesting, giving greater chance of use by the community.
230   The path design is more interesting than the large open spaces. I also like the benches along it, it means you can walk into and use the park without having to wonder if someones dog just "went" there.
234   I like the concept of sectioning up the park into areas that are independent of each other. Similar to Fiddlers square. It would also offer shade in different parts of the square where as the others have the entire middle unshaded.
235   I like the many diverse spaces it creates - both smaller, intimate spaces and larger, gathering spaces. I like the four corner access points and see the multiple paved areas as opportunities to use beautiful and interesting paving patterns and materials. My one major concern is the ratio of usable lawn space to planting bed space. While the planting beds require less maintenance and are more sustainable, the limited usable lawn space may not be sufficient.
237   better concept, more interest. The other just look like a lot with trees arounf ther edge
238   Well, this is the most visually appealing of all four sketches. It provides the most detail and I like the lawn. Who is going to maintain this planting bed??
241   It has the most trees, and the pergola is a nice feature.
242   I like that sidewalks allow you to effectively cut across the park without walking on grass. It makes for a park with several different "areas" for people to gather in small groups.
244   There appears to be more multi-use space and the largest lawn. The others appeared to have mostly trees and a concrete stage area. I like having a large lawn area
246   The lawn is smaller, it has internal rooms/seating areas for socializing and quiet places to read, the circulation makes sense following desire lines, there are planitng buffers to insulate from the street, when I sit to watch a concert under the pergola I will not have my back to 22nd street, I would like to volunteer to take care of the perrenials and shrubs, not grass. I think we need a dog park somewhere ELSE.
248   I like that the crossed pathways create a connection from one side of the park to the other. I feel like with some of the others where there is a larger green space, it will be tougher to keep up the niceness of the grass (see: Rittenhouse Square after a rainstorm. Blech). Also, I feel like this has the most interesting "design" with the crossed pathway. Feels special.
249   I love the variety of trees suggested for planting. Having the lower trees on the Montrose side of the plan will allow for more sunlight in the park. Also- the amount of planting beds is very nice. It will help the park look more beautiful and less like a muddy plot for dogs to run around in. The amount of lawn is more manageable and will require less water usage.
258   interesting landscaping, excellent use of space, architecturally interesting;in keeping with abele's achievements
261   Cleary this is the only the design that had any thought put into it. Let's make this park more like Filter Square and less like a deserted dog park. The design allows for ample seating, areas to congregate, and green spaces. How are the other designs even considered?
262   I like that the design subcommittee's plan is mostly made up of permeable surfaces. Not only do i enjoy picnic-ing/relaxing on a lawn, preserving permeable surfaces in our park will absorb rainwater which help will our all ready over burdened storm water system. For shows that take place in the park, I think that the impermeable surface will be uncomfortable. I find it unique that the "stage area" is set with the street behind it. I also like all the trees and planting beds. It would be really cool if along with the bulletin board, a chalk board cold be installed some where on the ground, or hanging up, that kids, residents or passer-bys can doodle on it.
263   Pretty Design
265   Multi-use, different functional areas, good flow of people traffic.
266   Most detailed and specific plan; concerns about update with this much detail though
267   it gives differt options and spaces to use greenspace, and suggests how to use it, not just a big open space that will remain a dog run as it is now. this will promote a use of the park for people and still have space for kids to have a catch. the scale is better for a smaller park to have intimate spaces.
270   This design is multifunctional. I like the paving and benches. It is has a more intricate design
273   This design creates a functional and well-designed park. I like the location of the seating wall/staging area. This plan incorporates walkways, pathways, green space and trees.
275   I like the various seating options throughout the park which I believe will draw a number of different people to relax in the park, people watch or read. Further, I like the lay out of the trees which will provide those using the park to be able to sit both in the sun and shade. The lawn is a great area for dogs toroam, but I think it's very important to cater to individuals with dogs and without dogs, not just one or the other, in in effort to increase the traffic of the park, thus increasing a sense of a community. Last, I love murals, they always add character and life to a park :)
277   Was this a set up? This is obviously the design that has more color and detail. Aside from that, I like this one because it keeps more green space, has more benches, and the paths have movement. I like that the park has a variety of simultaneous gathering options and yet could be used as a whole. Please do not pave the whole park as the other designs suggest! Thanks for this good work! I look forward to it's completion.
282   I liked that it had access points from the sreet corners and a cobble path through the middle, which reflects the most natural walking path through the park. The only change I would make is to reorient the "stage" so that it is on the other side of the path and facing towards the numbered street, instead of facing the side of the building.
290   I can get a better sense of what the park will look than the other plans and I like it.
292   I like the planting beds to add flowers and color to the park. I also like having the walkways so that the grass will not get as worn down. One suggestion of a change- maybe the pergola can go on the other side of the walk and face 22nd street, so that it will be more inviting for people to come and watch any concerts. Otherwise, there is limited space.
294   First, it is obviously tough to ignore the other details that this design provided compared to the other bare bone designs. However, just based on the layout itself I like the idea of having sectioned off areas. I think it will make the park seem like there is more to it than just an open field. I think an open field with a lot of space is something to be desired, but in this case since our park is so small I don't see having an open field as being worth as much. For example, if there was an open field, two people could be throwing a frisbee or a football and be taking up half or more of the entire park. I think it would be great to have a big field and be able to run around and play sports, but because this is such a small park I think we need to be realistic and plan for better use of the land. That is why I like the sections broken down more than a large open space. I understand the increased maintenance necessary to support the amount of beds, but I hope and believe the community could team up and maintain these areas well. I definitely think that this design makes the park more memorable, more of a landmark, than just an open field. I also like that the design allows for people to cross the park relatively efficiently, where as with no paths going across, it is assumed that most people would make their own path directly across the park. One comment would be perhaps the stage be against the wall in the bottom center of the plan and facing out towards 22nd st. that way we maximize the viewing area and we don't have the back of the stage facing the street. It would seem more inviting if you could see the performance as you were walking by so that maybe you'd stand and watch or come into the park. Also, this would be a good spot because the electrical supply is there as well. Another comment would be to possibly decrease the size of the two circle paths (feature and specimen tree) to maybe provide a little more space for lawn/grass. Overall good design
295   so many features, love the planting beds, so smart to think of a sunny bed! The pergola sounds beautiful, it also looks like there is plenty of seating and room to walk around.
296   Space seems more dynamic and active than others. Also liked inclusion of street trees and trenching.
ID#
Please explain why you liked this design best. Be as specific as possible.
12   size of trees. open feeling to the park. staging area opening OUTWARDS from walls.
43   The only reason I like this best is it allows for maximum flexibility in a small space. Also because it has limited plantings, which while beautiful take up too much space in a small setting, they will be trampled, invite rodents, require upkeep and take away from the use of a very small space.
63   the design simplicity and versatility/ flexibility. seems like the space would work well for a spread out farmers market, as well as concerts or other events with a 'stage' sort of focal point. on non-event days there is a large open space to take in the sun and more intimate retreats around the edges. also the continuous circulation seems more conducive to taking a stroll around the park. a little too symmetrical for my taste, but a simple, clean, effective design for a park of this scale. also worth noting that the openness/ transparency of the configuration helps with security, (i.e. the park can likely be seen in it's entirety from any point on all surrounding streets) - there are no places to hide or cause trouble.
99   I like having as much open lawn space as possible, especially since the space is already small, so that more people can make use of it on a nice day. Flower beds are pretty but restrict use. The stage area here still seems sufficient and the trees will provide increasing shade
113   Makes the best use of the space. Clean. Uncluttered.
129   Can be entered from 4 corners - staging area is centered and in rear.
134   Many entrances and inward-facing benches. Stage/performance space faces West;Fewer flower beds to maintain;
158   Like Best about Design;- Placement of the Stage ;- Maximized open lawn area;- Allows for future community events (movies in the park;- When future funding is available, design would allow for a statue/ fountain/ etc in the center of the park or an additional paved area to be added with a seating wall.;;Suggestions;- the Julian Abel Park gate should be centered at the mid-park entrance on 22nd st. ;- Would like if the placement of the trash receptacles were moved to the side along the fence (current placement);- Benches along the 22nd street paved walkway should be in the garden bed (same as the benches along the Montrose and Carpenter sides);;
192   The overall park size is relatively small. I like that this maximizes the lawn area while creating a border buffer to the street with trees and benches that allows the focus to be on the interior.
214   I like the more open space in the middle. I think the paths through the middle would break up any play area too much. not sure if they're concrete, but might be dangerous also for kids running around.
223   I like the simplicity and the amount of open, gathering space. Does the light green (yellow?) represent fine lawn, or some kind of pavement. My only concern is that if it's pavement, could we do something that does not contribute to heat island effect and impervious coverage. Porous concrete or concrete pavers, but fine lawn is my top choice. The scale of the stage area seems good in comparison with the gathering area. The benches are placed to allow for practical seating opportunities and help to screen the area from the streets. Hope the planting beds can be more than just trees in mulch or lawn area, but I like the mix of ornamental and shade trees with openness at the corners to draw people in.
240   The city has so few green areas I believe the design that provides the most grass should be chosen
264   I think it will be nice to see the stage from the street. Also I think its important to have a good amount of lawn. Plus plenty of benches. A fountain might be nice.
269   I am concerned about the area reserved for lawn. The Committee scheme really cuts down the amount of lawn area for the park and turns over a lot of space to "planting beds". The planting beds are not only tough to maintain, but they are not occupy-able space either. This scheme keeps planting beds to the perimeter, but still leaves a large lawn. To further develop this scheme, i would break up the lawn are with paths and benches (both occupy-able space).;;
279   Open space! This is the one area where I can walk to and feel safe to run my dog so it's very important to me that it can remain as open as possible. ;;Thanks for including us in this process!
288   (1)This design maintains open circulation around the perimeter of the site, as well as access from the 4 corners.;(2)With a minimum of clutter, the design effectively creates a comfortably scaled "outdoor room," a lawn with ample separation from the street edges via trees and planting. Most other designs chop up the site much more or create circulation problems.;(3) The "stage" area is situated at the east edge of the site, so that it is daylit in the afternoons and early evenings, the most likely times for performances. It also effectively uses the existing building and mural as a backdrop for the stage. Moreover, the audience will typically have the sun at their backs, and won't be looking into glaring late-day sun as they try to watch a performance. ;(4) The design is simple yet effective, and doesn't try to "over develop" a small site.
293   For the new design of this park, I (along with many other dog owners in the neighborhood) was really hoping that there would be a fenced off section for dogs to run and play. We don't have any sort of dog park in the neighborhood and for neighbors who want to give their dogs exercise and socialization, we would really like to see this park incorporate some sort of dog park area. Personally, I would be delighted if half (or more) of the park was fenced off for dogs to run and play.
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Please explain why you liked this design best. Be as specific as possible.
13   MOST OPEN SPACE
17   It appears to contain the most open lawn space.
26   open design that fist with the lines of the streets
116   This appears to offer the most open green space
250   this plan seems like it has the most grass
255   This concept has very important corner access, large lawn for play & events and lawn seating with a clear focal "stage" area, does not have unncesseary "extra" paving around perimeter, maintains buffer to street but lots of access points, mid block access.
260   Gives most amount of lawn space. I think there should be a kid play area
274   I like the stage area at the end, and it is just open enough.
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Please explain why you liked this design best. Be as specific as possible.
10   Because it is a balance of open space and trees - the seats are spaced out well and with the round edges, it seems larger than it actually is. The trees behind the seats will act like a barrier from the street (and the bus!). Having the trees closest to the street is a SAFER design: with the bus and traffic closer to the trees, it would make it a less appealing place for criminals to do their business (junkies, drug dealers, etc., may be less inclined to commit their crimes right on the street where cars and buses pass frequently, rather than a dark corner on Montrose).
59   I feel the soft lines of the landscaping make it more inviting. It's much more aestetically pleasing.
60   I like how open the space is making the may it can be used very flexible.
71   Takes into account the size of the space and utilizes curves
85   I like the shape and the arcing paths. I like that a central focus area is provided to the east. I like the placement of the trees.
91   lot of grass space remains. having paved area in that small park is pointless. the more grass the better
104   Plan accommodates a range of park uses.
107   The flow of the park will be nice and there are few distractions. The simple landscaping will be easier for volunteers to maintain.
110   Creates a pathway but maximizes the green area and puts stage area against building which makes the most sense to me. Maximizing visual area.
114   maximize green space with interesting curves
115   I like that the stage is open to the block, against the buildings. I think this increases visibility and safety. I also like that there is a grassy seating area with the wide walking path, allowing for a large open space, better for viewing and also better for small kids playing without having paths intersecting it.
117   i like this design the best because i feel it maximizes park space in a limited environment. the "stage"/performance area is against the wall and green space within the park is maximized. I also think with this design the mural will be the centerpiece of the park and with proper paving, the design could minimize water runoff into the sewer system.
132   I like the location of the staging area.I also like the curved pathways and lawn.
139   The way the seating flows around the park. Gentle curves in a harsh rectangular space.
140   has some substance in the center of the park to draw people in rather than remaining on the outside edges but it is not quite as busy as my second choice
144   Open, quiet, curved space
157   As much green space as possible should be provided, while providing hardscaping for users to traverse the site. This concept has a balance of both. Other options are lacking in hardscaped paths or focus entirely too much on hardscaping and underserve the green space.
162   keepin it green
165   Pathways, good positioning of stage area room for seating and flowers
178   I like the ease of park entrance and the way it's laid out.
193   Most of all, I like the circulation that this plan provides. It would be a pleasant place for neighbors to walk around. Entrance points make sense, and I think it does a good job of giving the park some shape and form that would enable creative programming.
194   I believe that this design maximizes the space, while offering greatest potential.
195   Clean and simple.
205   It has more open space.
209   Lots of open space in the middle, area for beds on the sides. This design has a unique feel but also gives the open space for dogs to run, etc.
211   It has more curvature, which is pleasing. The central open area does not detract from the shaded corner nook areas. I think several different types of activity can occur simultaneously in this plan.
216   The circular/rounded design shape inside the park is great. I don't want a design that looks too symmetrical / grid-like. This design is perfect in that regard...very organic.
219   I like that the lawn is relatively unobstructed and open, but a bit reduced in size, and therefore a bit more 'cozy' than the others.
226   Maintains open area for communal use while still aesthetically pleasing.
228   I like that there is an open space that is proportional to the space with trees.
233   interesting shape, paved walkway near benches cutting conveniently through the space
243   THe stage area is along the buildings - allowing a larger audience; benches are within the fence, providing security, nice amount of green space.
252   I like the idea of the stage being against the building.
256   Plenty of lawn space and curved walkways make it more interesting.
259   I like this design the best only if the yellow portion of the design is mean to be grass. If it's not grass, then I like the colorful design the best. It's very difficult to tell with the Lager Raabe Skafte designs whether the yellow portion denotes green space. If it is grass, the reason I like this the best is because it flows nicely, creating soft lines in a rectangle park. And it keeps the space green.
271   nice shape
280   Simply design vs. my second best design. More open grass area in the middle. My second best design seemed like it had too much pavers and not enough grass area.
287   I like the irregularity of the design and that it works with curved lines and creates movement throughout a rectangular space.
291   I think having the stage/performance area around the wall makes it much easier for community members who are passing by to join in on events. This layout also maximizes greenspace while allowing for easy walkways and smooth places for kids to ride bikes around.
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Why is this one your least favorite? Again, please try to be as specific as possible.
10   Separating the spaces in this design makes it seem like a smaller park than it actually is. Plus, the separate spaces are more inviting to criminal elements (further from the regular vehicle traffic, facing away from the street). The benches and planting beds on the north/south side are a great place for roving juveniles to get into some trouble this summer.
17   It appears to contain the least amount of lawn space of all the designs.
26   while I like the feeling of coming together, it actually creates a divide as there is no continued seating from the smaller circles. Do not like the idea of a seating wall/staging area
43   I LOVED the commities design plan it's very pretty but does not fully take into account how the space is utilized. With the market and concerts etc... the small space needs maximum flexibility. If the pergola were on the opposite side against the wall and the planting beds were removed or made much smaller. Plantings need a lot of up keep for the long term and invite rodents. There is a park on 20th the other side of washington a few blocks that was done. You can tell it was very intricate and beautiful but because it required a lot of upkeep did not fare well over time. Who knows what the future holds.The cobble stone pathways are great, i would love to see the whole lawn covered in pavers or brick and plantings raised along the edges. Otherwise the plantings will get trampled. It's really pretty though.
63   great ideas but the design layout seems convoluted and doesn't seem to be using the full space of the park in the best way. in a smaller park like this it seems like if there were an event on a stage you would want to be able to utilize as much of the square footage as possible for seating - this design allows less than half of the space to have a view of the stage. also it doesn't seem to really accommodate spread out uses like farmers markets because so much of the square footage is monopolized (especially by occupying the center). I personally like the circulation of some of the other schemes better because they seem to encourage a stroll around the park, while this seems to encourage more of a cut through. I like the idea of a simple, low maintenance pergola above the 'staging area' - adds a nice architectural touch. I wonder if this could be incorporated into the other schemes?
71   for the size of the space i think it would be too much but it would probably stop the park from it current use as simply a dog park
104   Lawn is too small.
113   Seriously very badly designed. messy.
116   It is too cluttered. The stage layout is poor and effectively only allows for seating in the lawn area, this is not enough to accommodate special events
139   Too much focus on landscaping an entertainment venue over a great green space for day-to-day use, gardening/landscaping flexibility, and aesthetics. Lacks intimacy. Scattered benches. Back of the seating wall/ staging is facing 22nd street? The colorful design seems intended to catch our eye and grab our vote. Rigged.
157   Not enough green space/too much hardscaping. Potential "lawn" area for use during events (facing a stage) is minimal in this concept as compared to the others. This concept does not appear to offer a large enough open space to continue hosting the farmer's market as the perimeter of the site is densely lined with trees, curbing and fencing.
165   Amateur drawing. Too much in a small space. Bad seating
195   Too busy.
199   It's too over the top. I prefer the simpler designs.
211   this is too busy and will be sure to look shabby in short order. It would prbably be hard to "have a catch" within this arrangement. this is more like a hardscape for old people, with its oodles of features.
214   I just think there's too much in a small area. I like all of the benchs but I don't like all of the paths. I think it would be better without paths from the corners to the middle. I like the planting beds, pergola and seating wall areas.
226   Appears to leave very little open lawn space. This is a small plot and I don't want to see it so cluttered that it loses utility and comfort. We are an up and coming neighborhood and the park should provide a space that is enjoyable for children and adults. Without green space, it will be of little benefit to parents and children.
240   It looks like only a quarter of the park is green space...that cuts down on space for kids to play and dogs to run
250   you took the only green grassy place in the neighborhood and make it all planting beds and sidewalk
269   Not enough occupy-able space. We need space for kids to run and people to throw a blanket down. Planting beds are hard to maintain and cannot be used. While a few planting beds along the perimeter maybe nice, this park needs to be may up of space people can use to run around in.
274   It may just be the different look of the plan, but it seems like there is too much going on. I'm curious about what the feature and specimen tree are.
279   There's not enough open space and a bit too many "features". If it could cut down the side walk a bit that would be great.
293   This one is too busy I think. While it would likely be very pretty, there isn't much open space for picnics or letting dogs run around in the grass. Also for summer concerts there wouldn't be as much room to sit in the grass.
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Why is this one your least favorite? Again, please try to be as specific as possible.
3   This is little more than we have today. We have sidewalks all around on the outside of the park. Why do we need them following the edges like a track around the edge... seems redundant and wasteful. The field is too big and will be used... as the space is today... like a football field. The focal point stage is little more than a glorified sidewalk. Worst of all, the plan is unimaginative and extremely boring. Their was very little thought put into it as it's little more than what we have today... and what we have today ain't workin'!
44   This just seems to be a waste of space, no reprieve from traffic, too much grass, no focus (besides the mural).
62   Doesn't maximize space.
66   too plain, the park looks like this now minus the stage and the sidewalk. The large lawn doesn't do much for the park except provide a place for dogs to go #2
122   seems pretty plain
145   Bland, too wide open
246   This can not really be called a park design. It's not any different from the glorified empty lot/dog run we have now. I am super grossed out by all of the dog pee. I reluctantly brought a picnic blanket to the concert but made sure to wash it after. The backdrop of the stage is a view of the easment. I would never use the paths where they are, I'll still be walking from corner to corner right across the grass. If I want to have a conversation with more than one person we'll have to stand. I don't see where we could add focal points. It's completely ininspired.
275   I truly Like all of the concepts. It is difficult to understand this lay out b/c it is lacking in description to the viewer. I don't see any specifics about benches, or murals, or trees, therefore I can't visualize or become as excited about a dsign lay out that is so simple and lacking in design fundamentals.
292   Too much open space. No focal points.
296   I really didn't have strong feelings about any of these other concepts. Liked having mural as backdrop to stage area if I am reading it correctly. As an aside comment, I think to make the designs easier to consider on an equal footing, the Park Committee design should have been pared down to this 'bare bones' level.
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Why is this one your least favorite? Again, please try to be as specific as possible.
2   I don't like the orientation of the stage in this one. I think it is too far away from the other end of the park, and wouldn't be as good for viewing movies or concerts. I also think it resembles the current/existing design too much, in that there is too much blank/open area in the middle.
4   Too much lawn. Boring. No acknowlegement that people cross the park diagonally.
8   More boring than the other two.
12   bit too "mall" like.
19   that big field is just asking to be torn up by football on a muddy day and it just seems like a slight change from the current design, a few more paths around the perimiter means it just a more expensive dog-park.
23   We already have this. Just without nice grass.
27   There is a lot of open grass--which we just need to get away from. Also, i don't like the stage area on one side--it just sems plopped down as an afterthought.
28   Least ambitious of the four.
33   I don't like the layout going left-right. I'm not sure what the colors represent? I don't like the idea of having a "looped" walkway, people will cut across the yellow area causing paths/ruts to form (assuming the yellow is grass/field/etc)
34   looks plain
35   People will be forced to use the grass not only for relaxing, but also for just passing through. The design is neither interesting nor is it unique. The park has a significant amount of money; this design would basically spend a lot of money to retain the status quo.
38   I think this plan has too much open lawn space. It is too similar to the park that we have now. Most people will use this as a dog park/dog run. ;;Also, this plan doesn't have a lot of character. It doesn't really make the park a destination. I think some kind of feature inside the park or interesting pathways would make it more of a destination. ;;I think having perimeter paths inside the park are not necessary where there are sidewalks already outside of the park. ;;I do not like the location of the stage/design of the pathway on the north side of the park. ;;Are there any planting beds in this plan? If not, I think that is also a reason why I do not like this plan. ;
39   that field will be a muddy mess
46   Too rectangular. Cold. Not very inviting.
48   I don't like the set up.
54   dislike open field plan
55   Not very developed, but appears to leave a large assembly space in the center - looks like a empty parking lot - Is there seating? No legend to explain the symbols.;Big open area, maybe no different from an empty lot.
57   No interest to break up the middle part, which I assume is just to be a large lawn.
59   This concept just seems dull. There's nothing about this that seems fun. Just your regular run of the mill park.
60   It is balanced, but kind of boring. There is nothing really interesting about the space. However, it would be a big improvement compared to what is there today.
65   Too open - basically and open field. No spaces carved out for people to relax in a semi-intimate setting.
68   This one is too minimal.... and boring.
73   just seems plain and boring and asymetrical
75   Seems pretty bland and not unlike what we have. The grass jsut doesn't grow well in parks where there is no stone pathway to walk so I think the park will continue to look a little rundown with this design. Also making a stage to the right limits the number of "front row" seats
76   Not very clear as to what would make up the space (anywhere to sit, for example?).
77   basic design, looks like a lot, with trees around it.
79   It seems bland. It's oriented south, whereas the park is already very far south in the neighborhood. Not enough benches. Little variety.
81   It looks boring, there is nothing done with the interior of the park, if it is left as grass it will just get torn up as it has every summer since the first 100k was spent on the renovations
84   I feel it's far to formal for the surrounding neighborhood. I would like to see something like this in old city.
85   The shape is uninteresting.
86   I find the design boring - it lacks anything that would excite me - planting materials, surfaces, etc
88   generally don't see the shape as being dynamic. There is not an element of 'transformation' as Julian Ablee park is already similar to this- just it adds some landscaping but i dont feel that is enough.
89   No variety. Boring design. No mixture of uses and it just seems like a space where people will not spend a lot of time.
91   it looks like there is a lot of paved area
93   It's way too linear and boring.
94   Only one of the four plans has any detail to it -- this isn't fair comparison. The other 3 are 10 minute dimensional skethes.
99   I can't really say. Actually, it is probably my 3rd favorite, since it still provides more lawn space than the one I chose as 3rd.
100   Similar to what is currently there ... one big open space. Walk ways not condusive to pedestrian. I could see people cutting across the lawn as short cuts, in stead of using the walkway.
105   Strictly perimeter trees and limited utility. The park doesn't appear inviting or warm, it looks like an extension of the sidewalk, with perimeter green spaces cut off on all sides by concrete.
107   It feels very boxed in. A park should be a flowing place.
110   The path duplicates the sidewalk which wastes potential park space. Stage area opposite Carpenter doesn't appeal to me either.
114   not interesting enough
115   With the stage area against Montrose and the trees around the perimeter, the center area is wide open without shade. If we do have shows (and I hope we do! love the jazz), it also means a narrow area of front row seats. I also don't like the only benches being along the busiest street. Even with the fence and trees, it is still not the most relaxing place to sit.
117   this design is too geometric, and i feel that having the stage facing the street would maximize noise pollution and disrupt neighbors nearby.
118   The paths aren't convenient for cutting through. This is just a stage and a lawn. As a non-dog owner, the big lawn is nice but I doubt I'll use it much---I'd need a much bigger field to make tossing a frisbee or a baseball fun. There's also no way to cut diagonally across the park.
119   I feel it lacks symmetry and don't know exactly what the yellow area is- i would vote for more grass and of course a dog run!
120   Most simple.
125   I don't like the orientation, seems more natural to be rotated by 90 degrees from this
126   Concept seems to be too generic. There are no street trees or benches. With so few pathways, the grass and plantings are sure to become trampled and in poor repair.
132   I do like it, but I am not sure how the narrow lawn would work for concerts or events.This one does seem to maximize the space.
133   people in back will have hard time seeing the concert
135   doesn't have much of a vision. ;;don't know if the staging area is best suited there.
137   Too rectangular, uninteresting. If there's something happening on the stage, the audience area would be long rather than wide, which puts people far from the stage.
138   It's hard to know what's going on here, but whatever it is seems dull.
140   it seems like it's set up as only a concert venue site rather than a community park
146   big open field
147   I don't think the walkways will encourage people to use the park as a gathering place. Pedestrians might just cut through or stay on the perimeter sidewalks instead.
149   1) Design is organized in one direction (north to south). 2) not as visually interesting. 3) afraid will just become big "unofficial" dog park. 4) limited seating facing in single direction. 5) Grass may become trashed.
153   This design will be nothing more than a dog-park with its large, open rectangular lawn area. Having the staging area backing to Montrose St. is impractical and unattractive.
156   I do not care for this design because the stage area is open to the street; although there are trees, the feel of the street behind the stage will still be there. Also, the open design of the park will not promote use of the park for people, but rather will support continued use of the park for animals. The number of dogs now that use the park today, due to its open design, is unfortunately prohibitory to human use of the park. I love animals, and dogs, but the use by dogs is too heavy, and therefore I do not use or enjoy the park.
158   - Placement of the stage;- Limited bench seating;- no trash receptacles;
160   BORING!!! Does not seem to provide a nice space for the community to gather and/or disperse.
162   boring
164   It just seemed the plainest and seems to have such a large non grassy area.
170   Not sure how this is any different that what we have now.
173   i don't really like the layout
175   looks like it would be difficult to walk through and enjoy the park. doesn't create any more interest than walking down the sidewalk.
177   Not enough diversity with this design! Just seems like every other park. Also, most of the nice parks (Rittenhouse, Fitlaer etc) within area, have access to the center, this one does not.
178   Because I had to pick which one was my least favorite.
179   How is this different than what we have now? Will be a giant mudpit dog park in two weeks.
183   Poor orientation of the stage area
188   To me, it does not make sense to have the stage on the north or south end because of the the capacity for larger crowds if the stage is oriented on the east side (see my previous answer). It also seems very boring.
189   unsymmetric
192   The circulation appears poor.
193   The long lawn is formless, and doesn't provide any sense of cohesion to the park. The surrounding tree walls make it too isolated from the street.
194   This seems least approachable from all angles.
196   Too much open space = too hot in summer, too windswept in winter. Don't like orientation to streets/surroundings. Bland & too angular.
198   Boring open space. While this could easily be used for larger events (concerts, shows)... it would not be as inviting for everyday use. It doesn't make it all usable space.
203   It seems rather boring to me.
206   Looks like a good place for dogs to go to the bathroom, that's about it.;
209   I would rather have the staging along the mural to draw people's attention. This design would allow less people to be close to the staging, whereas the staging parallel to 22nd Street gives more access.
212   does not seem to inspire much activity, community building, social activity
216   Too rectangular...the opposite of Concept 3 which I like because of its roundedness. This one is very bad.
217   It seems that this space is set up only for events. While this s not a big deal, I think that the set-up is unwelcoming. I would hate to be in the back for an event.
218   It is boxy and reasonably uninspired; it has the advantage of access from all four corners; absence of any other features in the large rectangle; We probably don't really need a small soccer field; two or three trees in the interior of the rectangle would help.
219   While I like the stage at the oblong end, I'm afraid this would result in a large lawn, and with no obstructions at all, would become a dog run and/or football field.
223   The placement of the "stage" is all wrong and people walking south from center city will not be drawn into the park from the northwest corner in the same way that they can mingle in in the other schemes. the benches are also strange and don't "face" anything.
224   This layout for the stage is too narrow for the personal concerts typical performed in neighborhood parks. Also, the path isn't continuous. It has a starting point and ending point, which inhibits navigation throughout the park.
228   It is a typical layout of a park. There is nothing special.
230   Lack of flower beds, no paths or sculptures
233   large lawn area is nice, but not as visually interesting at LRS concept 3
234   It really doesn't look any different than what the park is now.
237   Boring, just a field and trees around the edge
238   I don't like the design off to one side.
241   I like the stage area on a long side of the park better - it seems that it would allow more people to see what's going on comfortably.
242   On one hand, I don't like the idea of the stage being at a long end. On the other hand, one large rectangular piece of grass would be great for sports, etc.
243   Doesn't have good circulation within the park; not enough benches.
244   Appears to have the least amount of space to sit on the grass. It just doesn't strike me as a very multi-use space. I also prefer the stage facing a long side, versus short.
248   There is so much block-iness in the neighborhood as is, with the streets being the way they are. This, to me, emphasizes that too much. My fear would be the big lawn area would get grungy and then people would sit all around the edges and it would end up being a little too "junior high dance" with everyone watching the middle.
249   There isn't much of an improvement over the current plan of the park. It looks like very little thought was put into this design. Also- there are not enough benches in this design. If the purpose of the park is for community enjoyment, then having a place to sit is crucial.
252   I think the orientation of the stage is strange.
256   It makes the park look too much like a theater.
258   stolid, boring, uninspired, poor use of space
259   This design focuses too much on the stage, it is as if the stage is the sole reason for the park when I think the park's sole purpose should be for dogs to run around and play and for people to enjoy grass in an extremely urban neighborhood.
261   How is this even a design? I see four benches and maybe some bushes? How is this any different that what we have now, except less benches. Who is this firm that designed these? Clearly, they aren't architects. So pathetic.
262   Not enough lawn area, our city needs more permeable surfaces to absorb rainwater. Plus lawn areas, flowers and trees are just more pretty an enjoyable than a wide open hard surface that would be underutilized in the hot sun during the summer.
263   Ugly Design
265   It looks to closed off and uninviting. Middle space does not seem to serve much of a purpose.
266   Least amount of benches and no real focal points
267   dog park, the green space will always need maintance and frankly is a boring place to be
270   looks plain, not much different from now, trees may obstruct view and may invite unwanted behaviors . .
271   not a nice shape
273   There is not enough pathways/walkways in this design. This design lacks benches.
277   Too much pavement, awkward shape... might as well leave it like it is.
280   Not unique. Feel that it's not welcoming enough vs. the other designs. Plain and boring. Looks like more of a concert design rather then a park.
287   It's too static and I don't think the staging area should abut Montrose Street. It's doesn't really build much on the space it's just a peripheral decoration and I think having a main open area will lead to people using it as they have been (including myself) as a dog run.
290   I can't make out from the plan how this would actually look when implemented and it looks the most plain compared to the others
291   Too angular, not as symmetric from all access points, no way to easily cross through the park diagonally without walking on the lawn.
294   I feel like the open space is not worth as much to us because it isn't big enough to begin with. I like sectioned off areas better because it gives the park more character, and more to be remembered. I don't like the stage location, I'd prefer it be against the wall of the building to maximize viewing and allow the stage to be seen from the streets. I liked having some benches on the outside of the park. I don't like that there is no way to cross the park diagonally or somewhat diagonally because I think people will want to cross through efficiently.
295   It's boring. It doesn't look like a park that I'd want to explore. You'd be able to see all the features from the sidewalk.;
302   looks like we didnt know what to do yet
ID#
Why is this one your least favorite? Again, please try to be as specific as possible.
5   No focal points, path design is silly and no one will ever walk across it which will result in paths being worn in the grass. The pattering is only recognizable from above, so in the park it will just seem like a waste.
13   uninviting design;
49   what?
97   It doesn't seem like you can go through it as fluidly, and a lot of the open grass is overtaken by whatever is in the middle. I like where the "stage" area is...if that is what is depicted, but something about this design seems troubling.
98   I don't like the access way into the park. All I see is an open space with trees around it. It has no focal points of interest. It doesn't make me want to visit it. If I do decide to drop by, I wouldn't want to stay long. What seems to be the stage is uninteresting and the walkway goes right behind the stage??? This design doesn't draw me into it. Sorry.
121   No access from the corners, wasted space.
123   There is no access to the park from the corners. There are no paths through the park so people are confined to the edges. It is not clear what one would do in the center of this park. (A potential playground for dogs?? I hope not!)
130   Least entry/exit, seems odd to orient everything facing the wall (the newly painted mural does not change in the least the fact that the underlying building is a festering pile of elephant dung).
134   Restricted entrances;Not enough open space
142   Too curvy
143   The form seems too forced.
155   The circulation doesn't fit this particular site. Access off of 23rd is very important. It also creates unusable corners along 23rd, and only has one main space which doesn't allow for hierarchy of activities or people enjoying different things.
190   I think the roundedd design wastes space
197   No access at the corners. No seating near the center. No indication that anyone would be anywhere other than the periphery of the park.
204   Gives the appearance of being confining, and too rigid in design.
235   Lack of four access points at all corners. Awkward curved walkway are not how people would naturally want to walk. Don't like how trees are only at the perimeter.
255   This concept has no northwest/ southwest corner access, although there is a large lawn for play & events and lawn seating with a clear focal "stage" area, which I like. I also like the "stage" area on the east side- always nice to have a background and the mural is always in the "view". "Path" could be described as fun and playful and with NW/SW corner access to the "points" could be perfect. not sure what the circles represent... columns... pergola... where does the Farmer's Market go?
260   Don't like the middle entrance;
282   I did not like how this design did not utilize the most natural access points at the street intersections, which will create a psychological barrier against using the park. I like the stage configuration, but that occassional use consideration is trumped by the day to day use consideration of accessing the park from its corners.
288   (1) Circulation is unnecessarily circuitous, and forces a movement through the park that has nothing to do with existing neighborhood circulation patterns. The only reason one would stroll through the park would be to use the park itself.;(2) The park design is too insular,functioning as a design that tries to shut out its surroundings rather than maintain a permeable relationship, both in terms of physical and visible access. ;(3) the viewing area for the stage is too biased towards the center; the flanking humps to either side are too close to the stage to be very useful for viewing. (a typical auditorium arrangement flares out away from the stage, and is narrowest at the front);(4) The "bumpy" path is just silly.
ID# Which elements in any/all of the above designs do you like BEST? And finally, what specific elements in any/all of these designs do you LEAST like?
2   "Criss-crossing" pathways. Focal points/features. Unusual/interesting contours, which create nice/comfy-looking nooks & crannies. The big wide open expanses of grass, presumably. Which I think are too boring, as well as too difficult to maintain. I think the designs with more angles and curves offer a more welcoming and "special" feeling.
3   I love the Pergola/Seating Wall in the Design Subcommittee plan. I can just see this being a beautiful place for people to mull and linger. The pergola will frame the space nicely for the staging areas for events. I like the path pattern and balance of spacing in the Design Subcommittee plan. I also like curves and larger planting beds, something the Lager Raabe Skafte Concept 3 and Design Subcommittee plans have. I hate uninspired plans leaving massive open space and grass to mow. Concept 1 and 2 are fields with some plants and sidewalks on the edges. people are going to cut diagonally in the space, creating walk lines in the grass... periphery sidewalks are uninspired.
4   Diagonal paths. Private/public space balance. Too much grass. Boring concepts for the park's design.
5   I like the stage/seating wall idea, I just think it should be where the bands were set up last year, not right in the middle. Other focal points should he low to not obstruct the view of a staging area, but should be there to reduce the ability to play a game of soccer in the middle. A significant section of much should he provided to try to keep dogs out of the grass. Silly curvy walkways that no one will actually follow. Too much open lawn. Bench placement seems to have not been considered.
7   the walkways and trees and public seating areas please dont add any more lamps
8   The interesting pathways and seating in the first design are the elements that I particularly like. They encourage you to wander through the park and sit and stay for a while. The other designs don't particularly draw me into the park. I would rather walk around the outside and not be encouraged to stroll through and see what's inside.
10   Rounded edges and shapes of 4th design; Open space of first design; Safety of second, third, and fourth design. Clutter of 1st design; too many hidden/darker corners in 1st design. Less safe than designs 2-4.
12   Concept 1 & 3 provides a good mix of open space, lawn and "staging" area directed away from the walls. Concept 4. Too cluttered, broken up without flow and tight for the size of the lot area.
17   Like the of idea of surrounding the park with trees. More trees are definitely needed in the neighborhood. Also, like the combination of open lawn space with a small section reserved for a staging area. I do not like how some of the designs minimize the lawn space. I feel that the importance of clean and green open spaces should not be overlooked for an urban park.
19   paths breaking up the field, lots of trees and plants, 90 degree angles, wide-open space.
23   Sectionalized spaces. Cobblestone (NOT CEMENT) pathways. "Green" elements such as trenched trees and beds that provide alternatives to grasses. Benches that encourage use of the sidewalks as a part of the park. Open space. Cement walkways. Lack of integration of the sidewalk. 'Sterile' or uniform placement of greens.
26   various designs of bench locations and access points to open space for different directions the seating wall, staging area and planting beds. With summers like ours plants will not survive.
27   I really like the paved path THROUGH the middle of the park. I also like paved gathering areas/stage area in the middle of the park. I dislike the open grass plans. NO MORE DOG PARK/MUD PIT!!! I also dislike the two rectangle plans because they just seem boring and similar to what we have already.
28   I like the flowing lines and bench locations in concept 3. The lack of paved walking paths in all 3.
33   The design being more top/bottom vs left/right.;multiple entrances/exit paths the looped path in concept 2
34   the walking path of the first one;missing a small dog space MISSING A SMALL DOG SPACE
35   The use of paths and elements (feature, etc.) in the design subcommittee makes it unique and actually look like a "park." Nondescript pathways and poor use of open space in Concept 2.
38   In Concept 1 from Lager, Raabe, Skafte I like the stage location. I could see this plan working if instead of a perimeter path inside of the park there was a crossing path leading to a feature in the center of the park (or even integrating the pathways from the design subcommittees plan). ;;I like the benches and trees. I like the low fence along the perimeter of the park. I like the idea of having a low curb wall with a fence above it. ;;I previously mentioned the things I liked in the design subcommittee plan (see previous answer). I don't like having the park lawn completely open with nothing in the middle of the park. ;;I don't like the stage in any other location except against the East side of the park near the existing houses. ;;I don't like the idea of a pergola in the middle of the park.;;I previously mentioned the things I disliked in the design subcommittee plan (see previous answer).
43   I love the pathways in the design committee's plan. I also love th plans with more seating in them and more shade. I especially love the plans which have open space and allow for maximum flexibility. I love the plans that have the space covered in pavers without lawn that with the use and direct sunlight are difficult to maintain. I do not like the plantings in the way of open space since it's a small space. I least like the pergola and staging being in the middle and would love it next to the building against the wall. Let's the mural be more visible. Gives more room for all the different events that are currently taking place and will grow in the future. The park has become a meeting place in the summer and that openness has allowed that to happen.
44   I like the focal points of the first concept the most. It appears to give everyone who will use it the ability to walk through and enjoy the atmosphere, even if only to walk through. I know I'd prefer to criss-cross through the park than walk the perimeter, and the first concept is the only one to provide that.;;Additionally it, and to a lesser extend 'concept 3' or the 4th image, provide places to sit that feel more intiment, perhaps because their seating isn't limited strictly to the perimeter. The expanse of lawn in the latter 3 seems to be more limiting than liberating in concept. I understand gatherings and farmers markets for open spaces... but this is like the city's convention center... it provides a blank slate for usage but little inspiration on the high majority of other days that it sits empty. Yes those park concepts will be easier to configure on event days, but for the overwhelming majority of the other time it will provide as much inspiration as the convention center does... relatively speaking.;;Hopefully that analogy wasn't too much of a stretch.
46   Love the Design Subcommittee plan b/c of the use of trees and flowers. Space looks warm and inviting and love the idea of stage. Love the round elements. Circles and curves make it more inviting. I hate Concept 2. Looks cold and stark. I'm not into the big rectangle.
48   the feature in the design of the subcommittee's design, the seating wall and the arrangement of the park Too much wide open spaces that dogs in park and ball players can rip up grass
49   I liked that the atage is incoporporated but not dominating the area  
55   More defined area. ;Detailed description of what the symbols represent;Seating ;Gardens;Nice traffic pattern thru the space Big open areas
57   I like the paths and the flower beds in the design subcommittee plan. I dont like the large open areas of grass with no paths running through.
59   I love the cobblestone walk ways and stage! I think this will be a wonderful place for young adults to get together. Nothing really.
60   I like the interesting shape of the greenery area in Lager Raabe Concept 3. I think that is also what I like about the Design Sub Committee Plan.;;I like that Lager Raabe Concept 3 also has a large open space allowing for flexible use of the area. I don't like the boring symmetrical shape of the tree and shrubbery area of Lager Raabe Concept 1 and 2.
62   Cobblestone mixed with other terrain. No concrete.
63   I like the strategy of a large usable open space surrounded by more intimate space around the edges in the Lager Raabe Skafte designs. I also like having a 'focal' point visible from the entire park for a stage focused event. I also like the idea of a pergola or other simple, well-designed, low maintenance structure adding a touch of architecture to the park - probably at the 'stage' area or perhaps at an entrance or entrances. I think it is almost critical that the park be visually transparent from all sides for security reasons. I don't think that they need to be so symmetrical to achieve the goals above. a less symmetrical, more diverse space might lend some visual interest, feel more 'natural', and might respond better to context (e.g. direction of the sun, etc.).
65   The division of space in the first design allowing for opportunities for semi-intimate areas for various groups of people to enjoy The other 3 designs are too open.
66   Pathways into the park rather than around the park Large open grass field!
68   I like the seating wall and specimen tree in the design sub-committee plan. I dislike the stage area on 'Concept 2' because it's on the north side of the park. Also, I'm worried about the cobblestone path on the design committee plan; won't people trip?
70   pergola it's difficult to tell what the other symbols are in the other designs
75   The cobblestones, scattered benches and trees and plantings TOo much grass in the other designs
76   variety of plants/trees in the first design Unclear what would be going where in the last three
77   the pergola and the seating wall staging  
79   I like benches. I like it being oriented towards 22nd St. I like variety in the items in the park. I like lots of trees. Not enough trees or benches. Oriented south. Too much concrete.
81   The subcommittee plan appears to be thought out, including several different aspects of plantings, seating and good use of the space. Concept 2 looks like nothing, my question would be where did the money go
84   Access points on the corners only. Central gathering space. Utilization of plantings instead of lawn as this is good for storm water management. The designs that are all lawn bother me, this is bad for storm water and will wind up nothing but dirt and mounds of dog poop.
85   I do like the design subcommittee design, but please, no cobblestones. They are so unpleasant to walk on. I like the four entrances - very inviting. Concept 1 is okay, but not as appealing as Concept 3, which has not only a lovely shape but also a nice balance of shaded and open space. In Concept 2, to complete your perambulation around the park, you have to leave it and walk outside it along Carpenter Street. Why not have a pathway inside the park's boundary? Also, the open courtyard to the north isn't an ideal use of the space.
86   The use of trees, the use of different areas for different purposes I find the designs of # 2, 3, and 4 to be boring
88   plants/gardens and paths there is nothing specific i would say i dislike, i feel some of them are not as interesting and in need of added elements.
89   Staging space and seating wall in Design committee plan. I also like the addition of the planting beds, mixture of services, and circular gathering spaces. The large lawns don't seem to provide enough creative uses for the park space. I also don't like how simplistic the Lager Raabe Skafte plans are. It just isn't interesting, and the community need more exciting and beautiful space.
91   more grass the better paved areas
93   I like areas that are round as compared to square or rectangle - they lend themselves more to social gatherings. Also like several access areas through the park, as compared to perimeter paths. See above.
94   #1 is okay. I'd like to see elevations. The others aren't worth comparing to it. I think a small lawn is probably not going to fare well enough to be part of the design (see the state of the current "all lawn" park). I would prefer hardscape in the walkable portions and to leave "lawn" to fenced off areas (see fitler square) Don't like the overly geometric areas (concept 1 & 2). Walk through fitler square and check out the contours of the walks and the soft elevation changes.
97   The open space, the ease of walking through it, and the amount of benches. Perhaps they lack specific designated areas for dogs. I don't have a dog, but many residents do...and it would be foolish to ignore the fact that everyone walks their dog in this "grass patch". So why not designate some area for that? Make it cinder/small rocks or something for easy clean up/drainage and separate from the people part to avoid dog dropping residue, and lessen the fear of sitting on dog residue if someone wants to sit on the grass.
98   I like the low trees along the sidewalks outside the park -- it makes the park very inviting. I like having more than 3 entrances into the park. ;I love everything about the Subcommittee's design. Just love it!!!! I don't like how the seating is situated around the open lawn space (boring). The subcommittee design has the benches facing different directions, which I really like.
99   Open lawn space -- especially since the park is small enough most of the area will still be shaded by the trees. Flower beds that take up the largest portion of the area, since this restricts how many people can use the space. The Design Subcommittee design is more like an ornamental garden; the areas with more space seem more like a park.
100   Paved walk ways, shady bench sitting areas, with some open space. Stage area is also a nice concept for community events. Larger open grass space is very difficult to maintain. Needs irrigation to keep the grass green in the summer. Like it is right now, it can get patchy and unsightly in the summer.
104   Large, open lawn Small lawn area
105   Corner to corner walkways that are indirect. Perimeter and interior bench seating. Circular portions of walkway surrounded by benches. Large green space with limited sight lines from the street. Pergola. Perimeter-only trees. Limited green space between sidewalks. Austere right angles.
107   Green Space It's obvious that the first design in being pushed as the favorite.
110   Stage, green lawn area, pergola Duplicating sidewalk path directions. Stage floating in middle of park or on side street.
113   To be completely frank, why in the world is there a need for a stage in the park??? We need a clean open place for the area residents to sit and relax. Walk their dogs and be with the neighbors. Why no enclosed area for dogs?? Pretty much all of it. I apologize for being negative, but I use this park daily. Daily. And nothing in any of these plans appeal to me.
114   a lot of green space like it all
115   I like the stage against the building, facing out into the park with the large grassy area in front. I like having lots of benches by the shade/landscaping. I like the pathways being cobblestone. I do not like the idea of the stage either in the center of the park or facing the buildings.
116   Open, functional, green space that the design subcommittee does not offer. Compartmentalization that limits the usability of the space which is inherent to the design subcommittees layout.
117   i like maximizing the green space in the park, and having trees on the perimeter. i feel this makes the most usage out of the tight space available. i do not like the pathway cutting through the park as in the suggested plan. this breaks up what little green space is available and makes the park appear smaller than it is. keeping the paved walkways and trees to the perimeter allows for the a larger lawn area and would also maximize the number of occupants during an event.
118   Diagonal or shortened paths across the park. A mix of shaded and unshaded benches. Emphasis of the "stage" area, unbroken green space.
119   I like symmetry, variety and a place for the Jazz in the park! I am not sure what the yellow represents but i would want more grass.
121   It would be nice to have a defining element that makes the park and identifiable place. Flexibility for different uses should be paramount. A lot of these show large planting areas, which indicates to me that these will be largely inaccessible. I'd suggest keep all areas as accessible as possible to allow for the greatest diversity of uses and to accommodate the greatest number of users.
122   trees  
123   Walking paths through all parts of the park are essential. Seating in all parts of the park is essential. A central feature to draw people into the park is important. Confining seating or strolling to the edges of the park is not desirable as it gives no indication what the center would be used for.
125   Trees and grass. Too much flat space---it will get muddy and the grass will get trampled into the ground.
126   Interesting pathways, and many benches are a key element. Centralized gathering areas will attact people for gathering. Perimeter fence (rot iron hopefull or stone) is a nice feature. Trees are key as well. Planters / plantings will be important so long as they can be properly maintained. Not enough lighting in most of the concepts. 3/4 concepts lack street trees.
130   Most designs do a decent job of providing walkability without losing sight of the fact that as a park, visual appeal and greenspace are foremost. Unless I'm missing it, none seem to allow for a fountain, which could be neat if done well (eg. Fitler Square's during the summer and at Christmas time).
132   I like the curved approach, I think it softens the hard lines of the city. I really like the pergola idea. I like the staging area location the best in concept 3 and 1.Though I like the seating wall and various features in the first one. I am not crazy about the location of the staging area in the design subcomittee plan.
133   benches, paved play areas, paved paths  
134   Entrances at all corners; benches facing in and away from Park; retention of dedicated "performance" area on East side of Park;Lots of trees;Turning the special gate as depicted in Concept 2 Having performance space on West side of park (audiences looking AT traffic on 22nd street and into setting sun;Too many flower beds
135   like the benches and the walking areas. If maintained well, I like the idea of flowers/flower beds. I'm a little turned off by too many trees along 22nd street. Seems like you'd want that open to see the mural from the street and open the park a little more. Trees within the park and by the buildings are good.
137   I like having paths through the park, yet havings lots of planting. I'd like the stage facing out, so people waking down 22nd street can stop and watch. I don't like having the audience area be long rather than wide.
138   additional trees, benches, some kind of paving other than the perimeter sidewalk so soil compaction can be minimized I'm concerned about how any additional greenery will be watered and maintained.
139   Inclusion of trees, different sizes. Hope they are different species, too. Some flowering, some not, fall colors taken into consideration. Big middle space of lawn and entertainment structures if that's what is intended in each of these designs. Where's the charm? Spend more time in Rittenhouse Park. It's a big space that is intimate and flows around the periphery and through. It's annual and perennial - alway interesting. This is a smaller space and being designed for less intimacy and fit with the surrounding eclectic residential/commercial grid. It feels like the subcommittee had an agenda for an entertainment space and got stuck there.
142   The design committee had thoughtful design features (might have a bit too many features though) The other plans didn't have much excitement.
143   Mixture of lawn and seating areas Big open area will just end up looking like it does now. A big mud lot.
147   Trees will really help this area. I think that Concept 3 actually utilizes trees/shade the best. The others look like the trees might cut off the surrounding neighborhood from the park, rather than integrate with it.;; Concept 1 and 2 might not draw people into the park because of the way the pathways are designed.
149   Layout in circular areas to create intimacy (best is w/ pergola, second best is concept 3). Layout in one direction (i.e., concept 1 & 2). Entry from single area.
153   I like how the design subcommittee plan breaks up the park into smaller, interesting areas with lots of plantings. The diagonal walkways and features will create an engaging visual experience and make the park seem larger and less rectangular than it really is... a bit of an artistic illusion to make one feel "inside" the park, while still affording light and visibility for safety. All three Lager plans fail because they are essentially a single, broad lawn area surrounded by a margin of trees and plantings. This will result in the entire center of the park remaining a "dog-run" or at times a football field - both of which will be disastrous for the future of the park. The center area MUST be broken up, and only the design subcommittee plan accomplishes that.
155   I really like that there is a lawn area for dogs to run around. I think it's a nice way for neighbors to meet, letting their dogs and kids run around. I wish there were a separate area, fenced in where this could be separated. I would prefer that the Design Subcomitte's design flip the stage/pergola and the grass lawn. It would be nice, if the stage was being used, for the concert to spill towards the sidewalk, and use the buildings and mural as a background.
156   I like the tall trees creating a defined space for the park. I also like the stage area, and paths running through the park. I do not like the central open grass area, I think this park should be built for people and families, not just animals. The park should serve the whole community, which includes people with animals, people with children and people looking for a nice place sit. So I think there should be an area for dogs, and sufficient grass to play with children. I think the cobblestone design would fit this if the stage is moved, and the planting beds are modified to be grass or rocks or some material that people can walk and sit on. This will make more space in the park, and more area for people to watch music/events.
157   Large open/green space. (Lager-Raabe #3) All the hardscaping breaking up the green space into small, less functional spaces. (Design Subcommittee plan)
158   - Stage placement parallel to 22nd street;- The seating wall in the sub committee design;paved walkway all around the park;- Pergola would be a nice addition to the park in later phases. It could be added above the stage area in any design.;- Park entrance in the middle of the 22nd street side; - Stage in center;- Division of the main lawn space into quadrants, will minimize the seating area for concerts;;In any design, I am concerned about where the farmers market will be set-up. With a garden bed perimeter and trees along the side walk, I would suggest that they set-up on the stage area. Just a consideration to incorporate into the design. ;
160   I like the three areas of interest in the center of the first design. that has a Filter Square/Rittenhouse Square traditional Philadelphia park feel. I do not like the squareness of design 2 or 1 or the complete center openess of 2,3, or 4.
162   more open area all the hardscaping
164   I like that the designs all have a mix of lawn and non lawn areas with plenty of trees. Some of the designs don't have as much lawn and/or "nature" which would be a pleasant oasis to be in.
165   Pathway, seating, flowers  
170     Walk ways around the exterior are not working.
173   scattered benches, planting beds, multi-use park too much unprogrammed, open space
175   subcomittee plan provides a center for community activity. a place to mingle and congregate. the other concept 2 - the very isolated way of maneuvering around the park. a very rigid design.
177   Access to the center! No access to the center!
178   Lawn The first one has too much stuff going on.
179   Need to have walking areas through the center of the park. Concept one and concept two look like they were finished in five minutes.
183   Street tree trenches from the Design Subcommittee Plan, pergola, the feature, the specimen tree. From Concept 2, don't like stage oriented facing south.
186   Green areas. Adequate number of benches. Trees!  
188   Pergola is a nice touch. I like the shape of the grassy area in LRS Concept 3. Maybe aspects of the DS Plan and LRS Concept 3 could eb combined? Even though I prefer the DS Plan, I wonder if the space is not being carved up too much? The parklet is quite small to begin with.
189   lots of trees but still a good amount of open area not overly dog friendly since the fences don't completely enclose the park. it'd be nice if owners could let the dogs off the leash to run around.
192   I like maximizing the lawn area. I'm not crazy about the amount of paved area in the first concept. It's not bad, but I just fear that it would be too much.
193   Presence of benches. Stage. Positive circulation, where it exists. Possibilities for programming I dislike when the design gives no opportunity to walk all the way around the park in a circular-ish motion.
196   Design team's and LRS #3 maximize green space and provide visual interest. Nonlinear/rounded spaces and paths are pleasant to walk. Orientation to street/surroundings is good. LRS #1 & #2 are boring - too much plain, linear open space in center. Trees/shade only on perimeter.
198   -Park benches inside of park - not just around edge.;- Lots of trees inside park for shade. -Solid, large open spaces;-"Stage" at smallest end
202   The green space, the seating. The use limits the ability to keep this as a dog park which it has turned into. The shaded canopy
203   all the areas for planting are distributed nicely, there is an area for seating and park activity. Not enough walkways - and I don't see how the planting will be done.
205   Open space that isn't "purposed". Paved walkways. Spaces that have a specific purpose. Will I have a problem if I want to sit in the "stage" area?
209   Open space;I really like the design with the specimen tree and pathways, but that seems like it would cut into the open space.;Planting beds for additional beauty! I would like to see the park with an enclosed gate so it's better for dogs and small children
211   The curved foot print of LRS concept 3 I really like. But there are still lots of trees. I think the footprint is well sitauted with respect to the wall of building and will offset the flatness of the wall. There is way too much "stuff" in the design subcommittee plan. It indicates amateurism, like the livingroom your old maiden aunt might design, with calico upholserty and etageres galore.
214   Stage areas, extra benches too many paths in the first one. try to keep it as open as possible.
216   Roundedness in design 3. Nothing in particular. Just prefer non-rectangular designs....#1 is way too rectangular. It would be very ugly.
218   I like the larger and irregularly-shaped green spaces better -- DSP and Concept 3. On the other hand, the entire space may not be large enough to accommodate too much fragmentation. Boring rectangles.
219   While I like the inclusion of design elements such as the pergola and cobblestone pathway in the subcommitte's plan, I'm afraid it's a bit busy and may break up what's already a small site into even smaller usable (or unusable) spaces. It would be nice to to somehow incorporate some of the intentions of that plan into the 'semi-circular' plan of Lager Raabe Skafte. Having little to no visual interest, making the space a basic lawn.
223   maintaining green space. love the options to shade and form "seating areas" on the ground with trees and the pergola structure. like the idea of a mix of benches and lawn seating and a mix of types of trees/plantings. love the "amphitheater" shape to the LRS Concept 3 although I also like the entrances from the corners of 22nd and carpenter and 22nd and christian because I think people will end up walking and entering that way anyway so not providing pathways will just result in a muddy mess. I like the idea of some kind of "feature" element, but I think that can be better placed than what is shown in the design subcommittee scheme so that is isn't right in the center of the space, maybe closer to an edge is better to preserve the open space quality for public events. there seems to be a LOT going on in the design subcommittee scheme. not sure if there is a need for a low fence if there are border plantings around the property line. may want to increase lighting, but with efficient lights and screening to prevent uplighting. incorporating signage would be nice. I don't like anything that backs up to carpenter or christian streets. Would be nice to use the side of the existing building and fan out from there to create a more welcoming appearance
224   I love archtectural details, such as the cobblestones, location of the stage, use of space and navigation throughout the park. The stage being placed on one side of the park as opposed to a more centered location.
226   Open lawn area, trees, benches over-paving, too much clutter in small park space
230   Paths and flower beds The ring of trees with a big empty center is basically what's already there
233   I like the unique shape and logical flow of LRS conccept 3.  
234   I like the idea of a feature such as a sculpture or fountain. This would give the park a bit of character and seperate it from others.  
235   I like that all concepts have a stage feature, a lawn, and planting beds. The first concept acheives a flexible and user-friendly walkway network the best - the design permits for multiple gathering areas of various scales for both singles and groups. I think the sidewalk along the east border of the park (along the mural building) in concept one is a waste of money and resources.
237   walkways and benches big open field
238   The Lawn/grass area for dogs. the idea of getting rid of ANY of the grass.
240   Maximize green space too much development and non-green space on the committee plan
241   Trees (especially street trees), a path through the park, benches and trash cans.  
244   Large grassy area, fountain (hoping that could be the feature in the Design Subcommittee design), stage facing the long side More concrete than green space, just trees and concrete
246   the layout of the paths in the subcommittee plan, also love seatwalls! huge rectangle of grass
248   The trees. The trees. The trees. The more park benches, the better. What is so great about going to Rittenhouse is sitting on the benches and reading a book. Would be nice to have those elements. The large lawns. I think it makes for problematic upkeep and people using it too much as a dog park.
249   In the design subcommittee plan all of the elements compliment each other. The amount of benches, the placement of the benches in respect to shade and sunlight, the amount of trees is also wonderful. None of the other design concepts from Lager Raabe Skafte have the same level of planting variety and trees. I least like concept 2 from Lager Raabe Skafte because there are few trees, few planting bed areas, not enough thought put into the amount of appropriate shade and sunlight.
250   maintaining the visibility throughout the park for safety I dont understand why you would take the only green/ grassy area in the neighborhood and turn it into a park where less than 1/2 of it remains grass.
252   Stage against the building. Also, lots of trees. Stage against street. I don't like the designs with few walkways--I think that's important to keep the grass and beds looking good.
255   1. Four corner access;2. "Stage" focal point with mural in view (either north or east side of park);3. Large lawn for events, play time, running, lawn seating, famers market;4. I like the low fence - similar to Rittenhouse or neighboring garden blocks of Madison Sq 1. Unneccessary paving and paths- there is already a sidewalk on 3 sides of the park;2. Bulletin board should be on either both north & south west corners or northwest & southeast corners. Seems that many neighbors enter park from North.;3. This goes back to #1, but I prefer the larger "lawn" versions rather than the broken up "quarters" version of the design subcommittee submission. ;3. I think a little bit of site contouring would help. It is a big site and if the ground could slope towards the "stage" area the park would feel very cosy.
256   Maintaining a lot of greenspace and flexibility of use and perceived use is important. As mentioned, I don't like Concept 2 as much, because it forces one to see the park primarily as a theater, which should be only one of its functions.;
258   interesting use of space boring square without distinguishing features
259   Maximize green space (aka GRASS) and create soft lines. Since the park is a rectangle, the space within the park should differ from the exterior and be composed of softer, circular spaces. Too much emphasis on the stage, internal lines that mirror the exterior lines of the park and failure to maximize green space.
261   The cobblestone pathways and seating/staging area are great. The whole concept of the first design is so far superior from the other three. I like the bulletin board. I don't like the non-plan plans of the three Raabe Skaffe plans. So is it the idea that they would take out the current benches and lampposts to implement their grand design of making it a grassy muddy patch?
262   I like the "stage area," open lawn space with some paths, trees and planting beds, benches, the pergola hard, impermeable surface taking up most of the park. I also don't really like the bulletin board. Bulletin boards ended up looking really haggard with staples in it everywhere and paper ripped up. Also, it encourages excessive printing of paper. I propose a chalk board instead, it will provide an area to expressive creativity or for messages about community events.
263   Pergola, cobble stone, and planting beds.  
265   Multi-use. Trees closing off the entire park.
266   Detail in the first design. Have a concern that there won't be enough grass left
267   break up the green space with more paved areas and benches, we live in a city of grids why does our parks have to have it. differnt tree types. dog park open type spaces, barren, open, boring. learn from filter square, not spruce street park.
269   Trees! Benches! Planting beds should not take over more area than open lawn space please. We want some pretty plants to look at but we need plenty of space to lay out a blank or let the kiddies run around.;;Paved paths are nice, but they need to take you somewhere. a large paved path at the east side of the park does not really go anywhere.
271   the layout and green space the angular stuff
273   I like the designs with pathways/walkways, trees and greenery.  
274   I like the open field area in the center of the plans labelled concept 1, 2 and 3. #2 looks like it could have a few more benches available.
275   I like trees which will provide shade, but also areas that can be full of sunlight. The more vegetation and flower beds the better. I don't want the park to be only geared towars those individuals with dogs, it should cater to all individuals in the neighborhood.
277   trees, green space, benches, multiple gathering spaces. total pavement, lack of gathering paces... a park like this would be taken over by one group of people doing something (whether constructive or not), leaving others to sit on the side or leave. I like the options of the design group's design.
279   As much open space and seating as possible. too much walkway.
282   I like the designs that permit access from the corners of the park, allow for effecient pedestrian navigation on the cobble pathways. I like the design that places the back of the staging area at the base of the building. I don't like the design that places the stage on the far end, away from Carpenter St. and which also fails to provide adequate pedestrian circulation on the pathways which neither transect the park nor circulate around all four edges
288   (1) Bench seating facing the central space along an internal circulation path (only the design subcommittee plan puts benches on the external sidewalk facing out, which is not a good strategy).;(2) Stage space at western edge, against building wall with mural. ;(3) Generous tree plantings at perimeter in fenced planting beds.;(4) Open and permeable circulation and visibility to surroundings. (Lager Raabe Skafte Concept 3 is the worst in this regard) (1) Needless cluttering of elements on a small site. The site should be as unified as possible. In this sense, the design subcommittee plan is probably the worst offender. ;(2) Needlessly circuitous or strange-shaped paths (as in concept plan 3).
290   I like the curved design in Concept 3 best the straight lines in concept 1 and 2. My two favorites remind me most of Fitlers which I really like.
291   I like the stage area on the building side (rather than the street). I also like designs that allow for multiple access points and allow people to walk across the park rather than around it via paved walkways.  
292   I like having a general walkway for the park. I also like having flowers included. Designs that include too much open space in the middle.
293   The open green space in each design is my favorite to allow the most room for having picnics, walking through the grass, and allowing dogs and children to play. All of the cobblestone pathways I think are unnecessary and any slabs of concrete.
294   I like the various sections divided by pathway. I like the location of the stage being bottom center against the buildings. I like the pathway crossing over the fields at least somewhat diagonally. I like the trees on the sidewalk and in the park. I like the beds if maintained they will be a very nice touch. I like the entrances on the corners. I do not like the location of the stage being anywhere but against the buildings. I do not like when there aren't entrances on each corner.
295   green space, pergola, planting beds.  
296   Like the sense of movement in first design Dislike the designs that are more boxy
302   more textures and differnt trees and plantings for people to expore is better then a field of mud, the 1st option provides everything a small park needs for a community lighting is not well developed
Before we wrap this up, just a few more questions. On the following scales, please indicate what's most important to you.

Seating Options 		CountPercent
4|Quiet 6 3.1% 3.1%
3 9 4.7% 4.7%
2 13 6.8% 6.8%
1 11 5.7% 5.7%
0 30 15.6% 15.6%
1 18 9.4% 9.4%
2 47 24.5% 24.5%
3 27 14.1% 14.1%
4|Social 31 16.1% 16.1%
Total 192 100% Scale

 

Greenery CountPercent
4|Big Lawn 16 8.3% 8.3%
3 11 5.7% 5.7%
2 20 10.4% 10.4%
1 11 5.7% 5.7%
0 18 9.4% 9.4%
1 10 5.2% 5.2%
2 37 19.3% 19.3%
3 20 10.4% 10.4%
4|More Plantings 49 25.5% 25.5%
Total 192 100% Scale

 

Park Usage CountPercent
4|Everyday 53 27.6% 27.6%
3 34 17.7% 17.7%
2 34 17.7% 17.7%
1 12 6.3% 6.3%
0 24 12.5% 12.5%
1 10 5.2% 5.2%
2 13 6.8% 6.8%
3 7 3.6% 3.6%
4|Special Events 5 2.6% 2.6%
Total 192 100% Scale
Respondent's relationship with Julian Abele Park & FINAL COMMENTS Respondent's Location
I am a member of The Friends of Julian Abele Park, and also sit on the Executive Committee as Secretary.   20th & Carpenter  
I'm the Design Subcommittee Chair tasked with creating a plan and guidance for the city. I've been working with Friends of Julian Abele Park for over 3 years.   2217 Kimball Street  
i live across the street from it , and walk our dog daily in it    
A member and volunteer of Friends of Julian Abele Park.   9xx S. 20th Street
  2051 christian street  
Love the live Jazz festivals!   16th St  
I've lived in the neighborhood for years, before this was a park, and dreamed it one day it would be. I've been involved in park clean-ups, meetings and garage sales. I've also appreciated attending the jazz concerts (despite the odors), the farmer's market and the Rock'n'Run activities.   22nd and Montrose  
Homeowner / Neighborhood Volunteer / User of park    
  2438 Carpenter  
  2100 block of Montrose Street  
I am a next door neighbor and supporter. I walk by the park every day. I would like to actually use the park. I would love to have a mommy meeting park like Fitler Square.   2127 Carpenter Street  
Supporter and occasional user.   Grays Ferry Avenue  
  809 s 18th st  
I see dog without leash there and i am not going in why do not listen to the community and create in a corner a small fenced area for dog? how many of us have dog? do you really care about a park for special events??    
It's a great space. I especially loved last summer when the market came on Fridays. And the tuesday concerts were fabulous! (I would be willing to help organize the concert events next summer) It's .a way to meet and become a community without having to discuss difficult issues in a meeting. I use it to play with my small dogs and play games when i have kids visiting. I would use it daily to read and sit if there were more shade available. I am sure whatever goes in will be lovely and i will enjoy it. Please let me know if there is anything that i can assist with during the day time hrs of the week. I'd be happy to. PS I think it would be an immense help to the neighborhood if a water fountain, or at least a drinking water source of some kind were available in the park.   2122 Christian Street  
I've come through a few times while living in the city and its been great to see the changes made, though admittedly from a distance. Now that I am moving right around the corner I hope to become quite a bit more active in maintenance and care for the park. Hope the relative newness of my residence doesn't disqualify my thoughts!   (Moving to!) 22nd and Webster  
I sit in the park. I walk by the park on a daily basis.   Carpenter  
I would like to frequent the park more if was in a more "user-friendly" mode.   2017 Kimball st  
  23rd adn Catharine  
see it as a key puzzle piece for long term development. Also a way to anchor 22nd St in a positive way to lessen the know drug problems on the 22nd st corridor.   20th Fitzwater  
Last question was unanswerable, but was forced to answer. Think seating can be both quite and social (small groups). Ideal? think Washington Square Park, NYC or Rittenhouse Square. Smaller scale, but these parks do good things for community building.    
  Naval Square  
I will be moving to Graduate Hospital from Washington Square and would love to have a park to go to, to read and relax.   2122 Webster Street  
Just beginning.   2238 Kimball  
haven't used it, but I am eager to check it out.   18th and Bainbridge  
I go there for the farmer's market & special events. Right now, it's just a big area of grass with nowhere to sit and not much to look at.   21st & St Albans  
I'm interested in black history, architects, and I'm originally from Durham, NC- home of Duke Chapel (which Julian Abele helped design). I also go the farmers market there.   23rd and Madison Sq.  
live in the neighborhood   1634 Montrose St  
i visit the park offend for the the farmers market but other than that i stay away because right now it is a glorified dog park.   2432 Carpenter street  
Live on next block over.   2218 Carpenter st  
  Parkway  
visit occasionaly.   1918 Bainbridge St.  
Was involved in the initial spring into the park event but left after having had issues with one of the supporters and have only been periferally involved since then   1026 S 22nd St  
I go here upon occasion when visiting friends    
I live in the neighborhood and would love there to be a lovely park to share with my children.   748 South 18th Street  
I walk by it frequentlu   23rd and Waverly  
i go there with my dog. i go to the farmers market. I would go there more often if it were nicer... as of now i prefer schukyll river.   2613 christian street  
Use it daily to meet people while walking my dog there. A monitoring system to get people to clean up after their dog would be great too.   18th and carpenter  
Friend of the park    
  21st & Christian  
I have a pre-schooler child who likes to run around with his friends, or play ball at the park/grass patch. I like seeing music there, but hate sitting on the ground for fear of dog crap. We've lived in the neighborhood for 6 years, and are thrilled that these grants are available and hope the money will be used wisely....to accommodate everyone...those with dogs, and those WITHOUT! We pass by there every day, and love the mural, and hope it stays kept up, and we volunteer every spring to help plant, and we donate plants to be planted. We love our neighborhood, and look forward to this park realizing its full potential, and enhancing our neighborhood.   2211 Kimball St.  
New to the area. Hoping to be more active in the community this Spring.   22nd and Carpenter  
I have used the park for the farmer's mkt and to play games in the summer w friends. In fact, my friends w children live next door to the park, and I value being able to use the space for everyday recreation. Special events are great but would be supplemental. I always wish I had a place to sit and read outside in the summer; I would love for this to be that space.   2116 St. Albans St.  
Occasional user ... walk by regularly.   21st and Carpenter  
Concerned neighbor who loves the idea of a park that serves as an identifiable center to the neighborhood.   23rd and Catharine  
Use the park daily. Walk my dog here. Love the park.   2216 Montrose  
  21st and Montrose  
Right now mostly for the farmer's market. I'd love to have more shade to be able to sit and read a book, or a picnic table to sit and eat.   24th & Carpenter  
  22nd and Montrose  
I used to live at 19th and Christian and now live in the pocket. Myself and my roommate attended the farmers market every Thursday, and would definitely come to shows/events at the park. I am also an Environmental Studies/ Geography and Urban Studies major, and I am very interested in the usage of the limited green space within the city. How this park is utilize could be an example for other pocket parks around the city in the future.   2603 Webster St  
I walk through or past the park occasionally, and I sometimes go to the farmer's market. It's not on my direct routes to or from work (in W. Philly, at Penn), but I still go past it. If it was particularly nice, I can imagine having picnics and incorporating it into a summer Sunday's trip to Sidecar.   18th & Carpenter  
I am a local resident, i have two dogs and a child on the way. I would love a place where both children and animals can co exist in a clean safe way.   2213 Kimball St  
Primarily visit the park for the farmer's market. I am an architect and designer and would be happy to donate the creation of additional images or an animation that might better convey the layout of the park concepts to the general public. I can be reached at michael.g.burlando@gmail.com   19th & Bainbridge  
Walk our dog here once in a while   19th and Pemberton  
Neighbor, farmers' market shopper.   22nd and Carpenter  
I am moving to the neighborhood with my wife in April, but have been following SOSNA's website and this one for the past year to follow the progress and momentum of the neighborhood and key assets such as this park (or what it can become).   2109 Spruce St. (current) - 923 S 18th St. (as of 4/4/2011)  
Strictly platonic.   On 2100 block of Montrose, just a few doors down.  
I have only been to the park a few times and have noticed it needed some care. I am happy for the neighborhood that the park is being redesigned.   900 block 20th St [ my kids live here]  
neighbor   2103 Saint Albans  
attendance at Bd mtgs; supporting events   21st & Pemberton  
neighbor. Currently don't use it. We have a 2 year old son, and the park as it is now, does not appeal to us. We go to Fitler Square or Rittenhouse.   2103 Saint Albans  
came to a couple meetings   2035 Christian St  
I walk by it everyday, and I use the farmers market when in season.   2200 block of Kimball  
  2400 Kimball  
Occasional use since don't have a dog.   22nd & Kimball  
  2200 block of kimball  
Frequent farmers market shopper.   20th and Federal  
Near neighbor, concerned neighbor   918 S 20th St  
I visit the park often, with my dog, visiting with friends, and run in the 5k rock and run every year.   19th & christian  
I have volunteered occasionally, and would like to use the park on a more regular basis. I have a 7 yo and no animals. I am thrilled at the efforts going into the park design by the community and thank the subcommitte for their efforts.   2230 Montrose Street  
Visit weekly for farmer's market as well as for special events (concerts, flea market, etc). Not a daily user.   26th & Christian  
Neighbor to the park, and we have enjoyed the concerts and farmers market over the summer. We also frequent the parks with our two dogs, and we appreciate having a place to walk them and to meet other dog owners and people in the neighborhood. We would like to spend more time in the park socializing with neighbors, enjoying concerts, and maybe movies in the park! Thank you to all of the friends of Julian Abele Park for your dedication to making the park a special place ofr the community.   2231 Montrose Street  
I walk my dogs down to this park 4 or so times a week. I do NOT want a big lawn because I am concerned it will become an unofficial dog park. There are already too many dog owners who abuse the privilege of having this space in the neighborhood.   2041 Fitzwater St Philadelphia PA 19146  
It's my local park.   20th and Montrose  
  1919 Manton St  
  2127 Carpenter St.  
I don't use it often now   23rd and fitzwater  
frequent the neighborhood for Sidecar bar and visiting with freinds who live adjacent to the park.   21st and Pemberton  
N/A   22nd & Federal St  
  2127 Carpenter St.  
  21st & Christian  
I don't vist very often. I hope the farmer's market will grow. I've been there a couple of times for the market. I've visited for the Rock and Run. Generally, I do not visit very often at all. Perhaps I will when it's developed more.   909 S. 20th St.  
live close and would use frequently if fence completely enclosed the park (for my dog)   2113 Saint Albans  
Ocassional user. Love the Farmer's market and my daughter often runs around the park while I am shopping. Liked the jazz nights a lot. I also helped with the initial clean up of the park.   2330 catharine street  
  2419 Madison Square  
Currently, very little. But I'd like to have a relationship.   Hicks and Fitzwater  
Attend seasonal farmer's market.   19th & Fitzwater  
  2116 St. Albans Street  
I would love to be a user of the park, however it is now a dog park and smells.   22nd and Montrose  
I support all of the community activities, and would love to be involved with the planting activities if possible.   1016 S. Dorrance Street  
I don't have a particular relationship but I have lived in neighborhood my entire life and want to make sure long term residents are a part of the planning process for what goes on or is built in the future.   1022 S. 25th Street  
neighbor   2111 Carpenter st  
I live in the neighborhood, go there with dogs, shop at the farmer's market, and really like the green space and mural!   2031 Christian St Phila Pa 19146  
I don't own a pet so I don't use the park for that but I do frequent the farmers market and just think the park is a lovely space to have in the neighborhood.   23rd and Christian  
Live somewhat near the park, and have enjoyed some summer events there. I admire the work of Julian Abele, and he is a part of Philadelphia history. It is time something is done to memorialize him in a begger way than historical marker.   1530 Bainbridge  
I go to the farmers market and the summer concerts.   1634 Montrose St.  
I can see the Park from my house so I want it to look nice.   22nd and Christian  
Currently, I only go there for the farmers market   16th & Fitzwater  
None   17th &n Fitzwater  
An interested neighbor.   2100 Pemberton St  
I am a bordering neighbor of the park. Every decision made in regard to the park will directly effect my outdoor space as well (ie.noise, trash, traffic). So I am very interested in the park having the best use of the space provided.   2148 Carpenter St.  
Survey through SOSNA newsletter.   1934 Christian St  
Occasional visitor and farmers market shopper   24th and Catharine  
I live right next to the park.   Montrose Street  
Visit it infrequently because of lack of seating. Looking forward to using it multiple times a week once design is implemented.   18th & Christian  
Neighbor who visits the park mulitple times of the day with our dog.   23rd and Montrose  
Dog-owner - my dog loves the park; The concert series last summer was really cool as well   2224 Montrose Street  
I walk my dog there almost every day. If possible, I would love to see even a small corner fenced off for dogs, and plenty of trash cans to encourage people to clean up after themselves and their animals. Thanks for collecting neighbors' input.   20th & Kimball  
I have been there once when there was a flea market this past fall. There is no reason to go there if you don't have a dog.   22nd & Catharine  
Friend and lover   2019 Kimball  
Neighborhood resident   20th/Fitzwater  
I would like to use the park more, but right now there is nothing that makes it a destination. The only users seem to be people who want to use it as a place for their dogs to use the bathroom. If it was less dog-park, and more geared towards people users it would be wonderful!   Montrose and 22nd  
I love to use this park to sit in the summer and read a book.. i also attend the farmers market when it is available   2220 carpenter street  
I'm a neighbor, attend the weekly farmers market, love the new mural, plan to take my kids there to run and play some day (when I have kids). :)   2300 Block of Madison Sq  
It's a couple blocks away, and I'd like for it to be an attractive, safe place for every in the neighborhood to hang out and enjoy occasional events.   23rd and St. Albans  
i walk my dog here every day, and use the farmer's market   2129 St Albans St  
I walk my dog to the park quite often. And I plan to make use of the Farmers Market when the weather turns.   2242 Saint Albans Street  
  24th and montrose  
I walk by or through this park everyday. If it was like Fitler Square it would be a destination for young families instead of dog poop.   21xx Christian Street  
Attended Jazz in the Park and frequented the farmer's market. I love parks and often go to RHS to relax or read or eat due to the availability of seating and atmosphere. I would definitely use Julian Abele Park the same way if it similar features   15th & Pemberton  
Neighborhood farmer market   Christian and Grays Ferry  
I'm new to the neighborhood and am very much missing a park to sit in and read, meet friends, have coffee...Rittenhouse is great for this, but too far away sometimes.   2135 Catharine  
We walk the dogs there everyday. I great place to converse with old neighbors and meet new ones.   2118 Montrose  
i only visit the park for the farmers market, the rest of the time its muddy or barren. too much dog traffic in nice weather to feel like a welcoming green space for people.   20th and montrose  
I use it often with my four legged best friend and would love to use it as a place to throw a blanket down and get some sun in the summer!   2044 Carpenter Street  
RENT ON MONTROSE BETWEEN 22ND AND 23RD   2247 MONTROSE ST  
it's my local park   christian and gray's ferry  
  16th and Bainbridge  
None   22nd and Fitzwater St.  
I have a small child and would love to take her there to play more often. Right now, it feels like a dog park. Thank you for opening this park to all of us (with dogs and kids). Question, how are you circulating this survey to people without internet access? Thanks for your good work!   23rd and Montrose  
It's where I walk my dog and enjoy the farmer's market! It's the best feature of our neighborhood!   2044 Carpenter Street  
I don't currently use the park much. Looking forward to it being more of a social gathering spot to collaborate with people in the neighborhood.   22nd and Carpenter  
Just a concerned neighbor who cares about sound urban design.   1620 South St.  
just a neighbor....thanks!   2048 fitzwater street  
I live near the park and see it on a daily basis, whether or not I stop in. I have attended several concerts and events at the park, as well as the farmer's market. Have small children who use the park as a recreation space. Overall, I feel the park is a tremendous amenity for the neighborhood and am happy to see it developing. Thanks to the Friends of Julian Abele Park for their hard work and advocacy!   2300 Block of Carpenter Street  
I often walk my dogs to the JA Park.   2041 Fitzwater St.  
Haven't used it much, as I just moved to the neighborhood this past fall. But I look forward to using the green space with children in the future.   19th and Webster  
I frequently takes my dogs there to walk around in the grass and play. There isn't much space in this neighborhood for the dogs to run around, so I was really hoping that they would eventually fence off part of this park for all of the dog-owners in the neighborhood. I know that I am not the only one who feels this way!   2031 Christian Street  
I have visited the park many times and taken part in some events such as the farmer's market. I live a block away so I would love to see these improvements to the park.   2029 Carpenter St.  
I go to the farmer's market every friday over the summer. We also bring our dog to play there.   19th and Bainbridge  
Use farmers market   25th and Christian  
  2232 Montrose St.  
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